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		<title>By: Edmonton Notes for 8/8/2009 &#171; CodeEdoc &#8211; Technology And Programming News</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmonton Notes for 8/8/2009 &#171; CodeEdoc &#8211; Technology And Programming News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a great post this week called Edmonton’s problem. It’s definitely worth a read, and don’t miss the comments [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Adriel has a very important point there.

People who have lived in Edmonton most of their lives can&#039;t really realize how bad the weather is here. -35C with strong wind can kill anyone in winter.

That said, people here is awesome, traffic is never a problem, there are plenty of jobs and there&#039;s no stress. Also festivals are something to look forward to during the summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Adriel has a very important point there.</p>
<p>People who have lived in Edmonton most of their lives can&#8217;t really realize how bad the weather is here. -35C with strong wind can kill anyone in winter.</p>
<p>That said, people here is awesome, traffic is never a problem, there are plenty of jobs and there&#8217;s no stress. Also festivals are something to look forward to during the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Edmontonstories</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great entry. Glad to see our city’s local pride apparent. Has anyone had the chance to check out Edmontonstories.ca? It’s voting time…you can win a prize ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great entry. Glad to see our city’s local pride apparent. Has anyone had the chance to check out Edmontonstories.ca? It’s voting time…you can win a prize <img src='http://theunknownstudio.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Edmonton Notes for 8/8/2009 at MasterMaq&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmonton Notes for 8/8/2009 at MasterMaq&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a great post this week called Edmonton’s problem. It’s definitely worth a read, and don’t miss the comments [...]</description>
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		<title>By: edmontonrealestateinvestor</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>edmontonrealestateinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edmonton has certainly changed since I was a kid. Coming from Ontario it seemed one step away from having tumbleweed rolling down the streets. The city has improved so much whenever anybody say &quot;Why are you going to Edmonton?&quot; or &quot;There is nothing there.&quot; I think they haven&#039;t visited since 1989.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edmonton has certainly changed since I was a kid. Coming from Ontario it seemed one step away from having tumbleweed rolling down the streets. The city has improved so much whenever anybody say &#8220;Why are you going to Edmonton?&#8221; or &#8220;There is nothing there.&#8221; I think they haven&#8217;t visited since 1989.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriel</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s winter 6 months of the year and the temperatures are incomprehensible to most of the rest of the world.  IMO, that&#039;s the biggest obstacle to increasing tourism and reducing brain drain.

Weather is often sunny, unfortunately often accompanied with frostbite warnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s winter 6 months of the year and the temperatures are incomprehensible to most of the rest of the world.  IMO, that&#8217;s the biggest obstacle to increasing tourism and reducing brain drain.</p>
<p>Weather is often sunny, unfortunately often accompanied with frostbite warnings.</p>
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		<title>By: Mack D. Male</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack D. Male</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we already do engage people outside the echo chamber, though I agree there&#039;s always room for improvement. We certainly don&#039;t have a lack of face-to-face meetings for those using social media, however!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we already do engage people outside the echo chamber, though I agree there&#8217;s always room for improvement. We certainly don&#8217;t have a lack of face-to-face meetings for those using social media, however!</p>
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		<title>By: Morpheus</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always refer to a quote from Henry Rollins:
&quot;Life is full of choices, if you have the guts to go for it. That&#039;s why I get immediately bored with anyone&#039;s complaining about how boring their life is, or how bad their town is. Fucking leave and go somewhere else. Or don&#039;t.&quot;

Make the choice, or shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always refer to a quote from Henry Rollins:<br />
&#8220;Life is full of choices, if you have the guts to go for it. That&#8217;s why I get immediately bored with anyone&#8217;s complaining about how boring their life is, or how bad their town is. Fucking leave and go somewhere else. Or don&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>Make the choice, or shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: bingofuel</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>bingofuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re bang-on, Ryan, and I think as a strong group of #yeg twitter users, we&#039;re often kidding ourselves. A lot of our discussions take place in an echo chamber.

What&#039;s critical moving forward is to take those discussion out into the city, engage with people (as groups like Next Gen and the still-in-its-infancy Better Edmonton are trying to do) outside of the echo chamber.

Twitter/blogging/social media is only the beginning of this conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re bang-on, Ryan, and I think as a strong group of #yeg twitter users, we&#8217;re often kidding ourselves. A lot of our discussions take place in an echo chamber.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s critical moving forward is to take those discussion out into the city, engage with people (as groups like Next Gen and the still-in-its-infancy Better Edmonton are trying to do) outside of the echo chamber.</p>
<p>Twitter/blogging/social media is only the beginning of this conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Heise</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Heise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of this. I think Edmonton has a lot of great things going for it, and residents — especially young people — slag on the city a lot for very some unfounded reasons. (And definitely some that are legitimate. For instance, I think a large portion of Whyte Ave and all of West Edmonton Mall should burn to the ground, but that&#039;s just me.)

Needless to say, I love the city, and there&#039;s a good chance I&#039;ll be coming back. I&#039;m excited for that.

However, what I think needs to be asked is &quot;why are we rallying around these things and what are the ends?&quot;

The Edmonton Twitterverse (which I would argue is not indicative of the average Edmontonian and is but a fraction of a fraction of the population) seems to rail against every issue that anyone can make a case for harming or helping the city. I&#039;m not saying that having discourse about these things is unimportant — it&#039;s very important and we all have every right to do so — but I&#039;ve never seen anyone present an ultimate goal of what this &quot;Better Edmonton™&quot; should be or how to achieve it.

I don&#039;t think Mack&#039;s tweet is unique or insightful. The girl probably doesn&#039;t really want to be a waitress and would probably love to get out of Edmonton. You once wanted out. I wanted out. My friends who grew up in other cities wanted out of wherever that was. I won&#039;t fault young people for thinking like this, and I don&#039;t think anyone — a waitress or a brain surgeon — has a responsibility to stay in the place they grew up.

I know more people who are proud of where they live than those who aren&#039;t. That goes for everywhere I&#039;ve lived for an extended period of time. (Edmonton, Halifax, Ottawa.) Edmonton doesn&#039;t have one big endemic problem. It has a series of smaller problems that most major municipalities also have. Tweeting and blogging about them doesn&#039;t accomplish anything. Your audience is converted. Pin-pointing the problems and explaining to the apathetic masses why they&#039;re important, then offering tangible solutions is what needs to be done. That&#039;s not going to be done through social networking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of this. I think Edmonton has a lot of great things going for it, and residents — especially young people — slag on the city a lot for very some unfounded reasons. (And definitely some that are legitimate. For instance, I think a large portion of Whyte Ave and all of West Edmonton Mall should burn to the ground, but that&#8217;s just me.)</p>
<p>Needless to say, I love the city, and there&#8217;s a good chance I&#8217;ll be coming back. I&#8217;m excited for that.</p>
<p>However, what I think needs to be asked is &#8220;why are we rallying around these things and what are the ends?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Edmonton Twitterverse (which I would argue is not indicative of the average Edmontonian and is but a fraction of a fraction of the population) seems to rail against every issue that anyone can make a case for harming or helping the city. I&#8217;m not saying that having discourse about these things is unimportant — it&#8217;s very important and we all have every right to do so — but I&#8217;ve never seen anyone present an ultimate goal of what this &#8220;Better Edmonton™&#8221; should be or how to achieve it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Mack&#8217;s tweet is unique or insightful. The girl probably doesn&#8217;t really want to be a waitress and would probably love to get out of Edmonton. You once wanted out. I wanted out. My friends who grew up in other cities wanted out of wherever that was. I won&#8217;t fault young people for thinking like this, and I don&#8217;t think anyone — a waitress or a brain surgeon — has a responsibility to stay in the place they grew up.</p>
<p>I know more people who are proud of where they live than those who aren&#8217;t. That goes for everywhere I&#8217;ve lived for an extended period of time. (Edmonton, Halifax, Ottawa.) Edmonton doesn&#8217;t have one big endemic problem. It has a series of smaller problems that most major municipalities also have. Tweeting and blogging about them doesn&#8217;t accomplish anything. Your audience is converted. Pin-pointing the problems and explaining to the apathetic masses why they&#8217;re important, then offering tangible solutions is what needs to be done. That&#8217;s not going to be done through social networking.</p>
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		<title>By: Aden</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Aden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this.  Excellent article, perfect attitude.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should have used some references as well in my first post.

Grand Prairie: http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1640792

To be fair to Wetaskiwin, they have started a message board/newsletter/twitter &amp; have hired some firm from out of town to run the whole thing.

http://www.uccommunications.com/
http://www.wetaskiwintomorrow.ca/

Part of the problem with municipal governments is that they have a hard time listening to local constituants ideas I guess, so they need to hire consultants to solve local problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should have used some references as well in my first post.</p>
<p>Grand Prairie: <a href="http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1640792" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1640792</a></p>
<p>To be fair to Wetaskiwin, they have started a message board/newsletter/twitter &amp; have hired some firm from out of town to run the whole thing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uccommunications.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.uccommunications.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.wetaskiwintomorrow.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wetaskiwintomorrow.ca/</a></p>
<p>Part of the problem with municipal governments is that they have a hard time listening to local constituants ideas I guess, so they need to hire consultants to solve local problems.</p>
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		<title>By: bingofuel</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>bingofuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that link, Jeff! As for the term &quot;world class&quot; I agree with you. I hated using the phrase, but I, uh, got lazy. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that link, Jeff! As for the term &#8220;world class&#8221; I agree with you. I hated using the phrase, but I, uh, got lazy. <img src='http://theunknownstudio.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bingofuel</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>bingofuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things I think is key in all of this is that this steady improvement isn&#039;t the result of political will or investment of businesses (though these all have significant effects); I think those elements of growth and improvement are largely peripheral.

The major take-home here, at least for me, is that it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;people&lt;/i&gt; doing this. Real people who give a shit, who care enough about how things have gone that they now want to have an active role in how things will go. I&#039;m loathe to evoke the word &quot;grassroots&quot;, but that&#039;s what it is.

And that gives me hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I think is key in all of this is that this steady improvement isn&#8217;t the result of political will or investment of businesses (though these all have significant effects); I think those elements of growth and improvement are largely peripheral.</p>
<p>The major take-home here, at least for me, is that it&#8217;s <i>people</i> doing this. Real people who give a shit, who care enough about how things have gone that they now want to have an active role in how things will go. I&#8217;m loathe to evoke the word &#8220;grassroots&#8221;, but that&#8217;s what it is.</p>
<p>And that gives me hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I want it now!

You&#039;re right on when you talk about having some patience in changing the city into something drawing people in (outside of oil booms). I try and remind myself of that when I think about the LRT and transit. The greater good will come!

You&#039;re also right that the city has had its champions, continues to have those people driving new ideas, and will require those kinds of people to push the evolution.

I also hate the term &quot;world class&quot; city.

This post also reminds me of some musings from a friend, where he talks about the need for good Edmontonians to get on the case of the bad: http://grandefullbody.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/a-note-on-edmonton/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I want it now!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right on when you talk about having some patience in changing the city into something drawing people in (outside of oil booms). I try and remind myself of that when I think about the LRT and transit. The greater good will come!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also right that the city has had its champions, continues to have those people driving new ideas, and will require those kinds of people to push the evolution.</p>
<p>I also hate the term &#8220;world class&#8221; city.</p>
<p>This post also reminds me of some musings from a friend, where he talks about the need for good Edmontonians to get on the case of the bad: <a href="http://grandefullbody.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/a-note-on-edmonton/" rel="nofollow">http://grandefullbody.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/a-note-on-edmonton/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points Adam. The same could be said for many other small communities in Northern Alberta.

Grande Prairie has hired an American firm to help it&#039;s image by &#039;rebranding&#039; the community. The citizens of my Community of Wetakiwin seem more interested in complaining about the way the city is run, rather than trying to become a part of the solution.

The 25-40 demographic in this province have to become more involved in politics &amp; organizing events in order to ty &amp; make our province a better place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Adam. The same could be said for many other small communities in Northern Alberta.</p>
<p>Grande Prairie has hired an American firm to help it&#8217;s image by &#8216;rebranding&#8217; the community. The citizens of my Community of Wetakiwin seem more interested in complaining about the way the city is run, rather than trying to become a part of the solution.</p>
<p>The 25-40 demographic in this province have to become more involved in politics &amp; organizing events in order to ty &amp; make our province a better place.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Edmonton&#039;s problem is partly a visual one.  So, I live in Vancouver.  Vancouver is like that beautiful girl who doesn&#039;t have to wear any makeup or really try.  She just has to not fuck it up.   Whereas Edmonton is kinda plain, and has to work a bit harder.  On the flip side, on twitter i find &#039;Couves less passionate than #yeggers about making their city better...i think we have a tendency to coast on our looks a bit.  Passion can go a long way imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Edmonton&#8217;s problem is partly a visual one.  So, I live in Vancouver.  Vancouver is like that beautiful girl who doesn&#8217;t have to wear any makeup or really try.  She just has to not fuck it up.   Whereas Edmonton is kinda plain, and has to work a bit harder.  On the flip side, on twitter i find &#8216;Couves less passionate than #yeggers about making their city better&#8230;i think we have a tendency to coast on our looks a bit.  Passion can go a long way imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://theunknownstudio.ca/2009/08/edmontons-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since moving to Edmonton in 2001 to attend University, I&#039;ve seen Edmonton take great strides as a city.  You&#039;re right it&#039;s not there yet, but I love this city.

My favourite part about Edmonton is that despite it being close to a million in population it doesn&#039;t feel like a big city.  Calgary is too congested, and too big.  Vancouver is a nightmare for traffic.  Edmonton has that small town feel that I just don&#039;t think you can get anywhere else in a big city in the West (unless you&#039;re brave and venture to Saskatoon or Regina maybe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since moving to Edmonton in 2001 to attend University, I&#8217;ve seen Edmonton take great strides as a city.  You&#8217;re right it&#8217;s not there yet, but I love this city.</p>
<p>My favourite part about Edmonton is that despite it being close to a million in population it doesn&#8217;t feel like a big city.  Calgary is too congested, and too big.  Vancouver is a nightmare for traffic.  Edmonton has that small town feel that I just don&#8217;t think you can get anywhere else in a big city in the West (unless you&#8217;re brave and venture to Saskatoon or Regina maybe).</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Archer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Archer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I like the analogy of &quot;moving the ball forward,&quot; because I think that&#039;s precisely what is being done, and what needs to continue.

I&#039;m one of the (seemingly) few people around town who grew up in Calgary and moved to Edmonton after university. One thing that I&#039;ve noticed in the three or four years that I&#039;ve been here is that Edmontonians tend to spend far too much time worrying about what&#039;s going on in Calgary, and not enough time enjoying Edmonton and its many attributes.

There is a group of young people here like Mack and others who are working hard to change that, and I think their work is paying off. What needs to happen is that people need to stick up for this place. Don&#039;t pile on when your friends are running Edmonton down; instead, respond by saying something that you really like  about Edmonton. If you hear a waiter chasing tourists away, say something to him. His job depends on people coming here and spending money - he needs to get on board! Let&#039;s get rid of the old culture of civic self-flagellation and follow the lead of the new, forward looking, generation. Other cities do it, why not do it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I like the analogy of &#8220;moving the ball forward,&#8221; because I think that&#8217;s precisely what is being done, and what needs to continue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the (seemingly) few people around town who grew up in Calgary and moved to Edmonton after university. One thing that I&#8217;ve noticed in the three or four years that I&#8217;ve been here is that Edmontonians tend to spend far too much time worrying about what&#8217;s going on in Calgary, and not enough time enjoying Edmonton and its many attributes.</p>
<p>There is a group of young people here like Mack and others who are working hard to change that, and I think their work is paying off. What needs to happen is that people need to stick up for this place. Don&#8217;t pile on when your friends are running Edmonton down; instead, respond by saying something that you really like  about Edmonton. If you hear a waiter chasing tourists away, say something to him. His job depends on people coming here and spending money &#8211; he needs to get on board! Let&#8217;s get rid of the old culture of civic self-flagellation and follow the lead of the new, forward looking, generation. Other cities do it, why not do it here.</p>
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		<title>By: blu</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I couldn&#039;t agree more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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